Archive for December 21st, 2011

Agony never made a society quit fighting, as far as I know.  A society has to be captured or killed — or offered things it values.
… One wonders now where our leaders got the idea that mass torture would work to our advantage in Indochina.  It never worked anywhere else.  They got the idea from childish fiction, I think, and from a childish awe of torture.
… I am very sorry we tried torture.  I am sorry we tried anything.  I hope we never try torture again.  It doesn’t work.  Human beings are stubborn and brave animals everywhere.  They can endure amazing amounts of pain, if they have to.
    —    Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.
From his book:  “Wampeters Foma & Granfalloons
[Obviously, this is a book Bush / Cheney never bothered to read.   —    KMAB]

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